Comments on: Nature-Based, Pre-Christian Paganism – That’s Fantastic! http://2witches.com/blog/wicca-paganism/nature-based-pre-christian-paganism-thats-fantastic/ Pagan Family Life, with a Wiccan slant Tue, 09 Mar 2010 20:43:44 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Lilysgramma http://2witches.com/blog/wicca-paganism/nature-based-pre-christian-paganism-thats-fantastic/comment-page-1/#comment-1136 Lilysgramma Sat, 14 Feb 2009 08:21:29 +0000 http://2witches.com/blog/?p=4479#comment-1136 I'm not a Wiccan, and this has nothing to do with religion, but is related to the piece in that there was a moving, some comedy with Rob Sneider (I think) being a male gigalo, a comedy, there was one women he dated who had tourettes syndrome. Well my son has tourettes and I was very offended by the show. Yes, tourettes people do SOMETIMES have the swearing tic, but it was really put to the extreme in this movie. I didn't want my son to watch the movie, but he was 21 so what could I say. I thought it was going to set off a bout of anger and anxiety attack (one of many symptoms of tourettes), but to my surprise, he loved the show and thought the tourettes part was hilarious. He is fortunate enough to have a great sense of humor and is able to laugh at himself as well, I think this has become one of his defenses when he is ridiculed. He has since learned how to mask most of his tics or to laugh them off (he does NOT have the swearing tic, but he does have some very strange audibles. Anyway, my point is that they really need to learn a little compassion in these things. Thanks for letting me vent. Even though I am not Wiccan, I really enjoy reading your blog, it gives me alot of insight and perspective, and if I wasn't so fearful that God would 'strike me down', I might be willing to convert. I am not very religous so to speak, but I do have a belief in a higher being. Anyway.. Thanks for your time! Keep up the good work! <abbr><em>Lilysgramma´s last blog post..<a href="http://www.myheartvoice.com/life-is-grand-because/" rel="nofollow">Life Is Grand Because….</a></abbr></em> I’m not a Wiccan, and this has nothing to do with religion, but is related to the piece in that there was a moving, some comedy with Rob Sneider (I think) being a male gigalo, a comedy, there was one women he dated who had tourettes syndrome. Well my son has tourettes and I was very offended by the show. Yes, tourettes people do SOMETIMES have the swearing tic, but it was really put to the extreme in this movie. I didn’t want my son to watch the movie, but he was 21 so what could I say. I thought it was going to set off a bout of anger and anxiety attack (one of many symptoms of tourettes), but to my surprise, he loved the show and thought the tourettes part was hilarious. He is fortunate enough to have a great sense of humor and is able to laugh at himself as well, I think this has become one of his defenses when he is ridiculed. He has since learned how to mask most of his tics or to laugh them off (he does NOT have the swearing tic, but he does have some very strange audibles. Anyway, my point is that they really need to learn a little compassion in these things. Thanks for letting me vent. Even though I am not Wiccan, I really enjoy reading your blog, it gives me alot of insight and perspective, and if I wasn’t so fearful that God would ’strike me down’, I might be willing to convert. I am not very religous so to speak, but I do have a belief in a higher being. Anyway.. Thanks for your time! Keep up the good work!

Lilysgramma´s last blog post..Life Is Grand Because….

]]> By: Steph http://2witches.com/blog/wicca-paganism/nature-based-pre-christian-paganism-thats-fantastic/comment-page-1/#comment-1131 Steph Fri, 13 Feb 2009 16:21:04 +0000 http://2witches.com/blog/?p=4479#comment-1131 This is one of those really fine lines I sometimes wonder how to walk; I have the added bonus of being bisexual, so I spend a lot of time trying to figure out how/when to come out of closets! The thing is, I am one of those people who believes that it's important to be out. Because right now people aren't familiar with paganism or Wicca, and if all they see is Hollywood, we're not going to make a lot of progress. But at the same time, I don't think that introducing myself as "Hi, I'm Steph. I'm a bisexual witch!" is the best idea either. To me, lately, being out is more about not hiding. I'm heading to PantheaCon this weekend, and I was chatting with coworkers about ordering too much Chinese food, and mentioned I was going out of town to San Jose this weekend. They asked why and I hesitated--but just said, a pagan conference. And it was fine--my workplace is extremely liberal--but I was worried about oversharing. But why lie? I don't know; maybe it was too much info, but it seems like keeping quiet isn't the answer. <abbr><em>Steph´s last blog post..<a href="http://quirkyknitgirl.wordpress.com/2009/02/11/sweet-dreams/" rel="nofollow">Sweet Dreams</a></abbr></em> This is one of those really fine lines I sometimes wonder how to walk; I have the added bonus of being bisexual, so I spend a lot of time trying to figure out how/when to come out of closets!

The thing is, I am one of those people who believes that it’s important to be out. Because right now people aren’t familiar with paganism or Wicca, and if all they see is Hollywood, we’re not going to make a lot of progress. But at the same time, I don’t think that introducing myself as “Hi, I’m Steph. I’m a bisexual witch!” is the best idea either.

To me, lately, being out is more about not hiding. I’m heading to PantheaCon this weekend, and I was chatting with coworkers about ordering too much Chinese food, and mentioned I was going out of town to San Jose this weekend. They asked why and I hesitated–but just said, a pagan conference. And it was fine–my workplace is extremely liberal–but I was worried about oversharing. But why lie? I don’t know; maybe it was too much info, but it seems like keeping quiet isn’t the answer.

Steph´s last blog post..Sweet Dreams

]]> By: Lady Amaranth http://2witches.com/blog/wicca-paganism/nature-based-pre-christian-paganism-thats-fantastic/comment-page-1/#comment-1104 Lady Amaranth Wed, 11 Feb 2009 03:17:24 +0000 http://2witches.com/blog/?p=4479#comment-1104 I am not one to tell about my being a Wiccan right up front. Usually it is something that comes up when someone mentions something that ties into Wicca or when someone asks me directly what faith I am. Other than that, I don't usually mention it. I usually wear a pentacle necklace and I have had comments about it, but generally speaking they are positive. However, I too get very annoyed by the way Wicca is portrayed in Hollywood. I believe in a lot of ways that the writers do not research what Wicca is about before they actually add anything to a show or movie. <abbr><em>Lady Amaranth´s last blog post..<a href="http://got-wicca.org/wander-the-web-wednesday/wander-the-web-wednesday-3/" rel="nofollow">Wander the Web Wednesday</a></abbr></em> I am not one to tell about my being a Wiccan right up front. Usually it is something that comes up when someone mentions something that ties into Wicca or when someone asks me directly what faith I am. Other than that, I don’t usually mention it.

I usually wear a pentacle necklace and I have had comments about it, but generally speaking they are positive.

However, I too get very annoyed by the way Wicca is portrayed in Hollywood. I believe in a lot of ways that the writers do not research what Wicca is about before they actually add anything to a show or movie.

Lady Amaranth´s last blog post..Wander the Web Wednesday

]]> By: Mama Kelly http://2witches.com/blog/wicca-paganism/nature-based-pre-christian-paganism-thats-fantastic/comment-page-1/#comment-1102 Mama Kelly Wed, 11 Feb 2009 01:08:04 +0000 http://2witches.com/blog/?p=4479#comment-1102 I think Jackie sums up best why this scene - albeit funny, albeit not intended to be realistic - annoyed me so much. "I haven’t seen a protrayal(sic) of a wiccan or a pagan yet that is correct or complementary" My hubby tells me that I'm too sensitive. He says that I should be happy to at least have the word Wicca "out there" for people to get used to hearing it and perhaps be curious enough to google, learn more, and understand better. I think he has too much faith in mankind LOL - most people believe what the media shows them. When "we" have a few honest moments on film then I'll be a little more likely to let the rest roll off my back. Until then, its just my way of venting. Blessings Mama Kelly I think Jackie sums up best why this scene – albeit funny, albeit not intended to be realistic – annoyed me so much.

“I haven’t seen a protrayal(sic) of a wiccan or a pagan yet that is correct or complementary”

My hubby tells me that I’m too sensitive. He says that I should be happy to at least have the word Wicca “out there” for people to get used to hearing it and perhaps be curious enough to google, learn more, and understand better. I think he has too much faith in mankind LOL – most people believe what the media shows them.

When “we” have a few honest moments on film then I’ll be a little more likely to let the rest roll off my back. Until then, its just my way of venting.

Blessings

Mama Kelly

]]> By: SacredAngel http://2witches.com/blog/wicca-paganism/nature-based-pre-christian-paganism-thats-fantastic/comment-page-1/#comment-1101 SacredAngel Tue, 10 Feb 2009 23:33:17 +0000 http://2witches.com/blog/?p=4479#comment-1101 I don't think him identifying himself as a Wiccan was intended to be a portrayal of Wiccans but more a portrayal of a desperate dater. <abbr><em>SacredAngel´s last blog post..<a href="http://pseudowifey.blogspot.com/2009/02/chris-brown-and-rihanna.html" rel="nofollow">Chris Brown and Rihanna</a></abbr></em> I don’t think him identifying himself as a Wiccan was intended to be a portrayal of Wiccans but more a portrayal of a desperate dater.

SacredAngel´s last blog post..Chris Brown and Rihanna

]]> By: Jaspenelle Stewart http://2witches.com/blog/wicca-paganism/nature-based-pre-christian-paganism-thats-fantastic/comment-page-1/#comment-1100 Jaspenelle Stewart Tue, 10 Feb 2009 20:06:52 +0000 http://2witches.com/blog/?p=4479#comment-1100 Maybe I am alone in this, but it made me laugh! Reminded me of speed dating where people dump a lot of personal information at once in the hope to impress or to stand out. I know Christians and Pagans like that. My spirituality tends to come up early in face to face conversations with people (especially when I was dating, you have to know all the parts of me to love me.) I am an extrovert and people come out of their shell easily with me so deeper topics are reach quickly. I like to think I am a little more subtle then that guy though. :-D As for my spiritual name, it is such a part of me that people think it is my real name. So I guess I don't find this clip too strange. Exaggerated of course but all stereotypes in the movies are. <abbr><em>Jaspenelle Stewart´s last blog post..<a href="http://www.michaelandjaspenelle.com/archive/2009/02/08/helping-mommy-pack" rel="nofollow">Helping Mommy Pack</a></abbr></em> Maybe I am alone in this, but it made me laugh! Reminded me of speed dating where people dump a lot of personal information at once in the hope to impress or to stand out. I know Christians and Pagans like that.

My spirituality tends to come up early in face to face conversations with people (especially when I was dating, you have to know all the parts of me to love me.) I am an extrovert and people come out of their shell easily with me so deeper topics are reach quickly. I like to think I am a little more subtle then that guy though. :-D

As for my spiritual name, it is such a part of me that people think it is my real name. So I guess I don’t find this clip too strange. Exaggerated of course but all stereotypes in the movies are.

Jaspenelle Stewart´s last blog post..Helping Mommy Pack

]]> By: Kelly http://2witches.com/blog/wicca-paganism/nature-based-pre-christian-paganism-thats-fantastic/comment-page-1/#comment-1099 Kelly Tue, 10 Feb 2009 17:54:48 +0000 http://2witches.com/blog/?p=4479#comment-1099 I'm not pagan, though I have learned a great deal about pagan religions and I have respect for ALL religions. I saw this clip and thought, that is going to tick some people off. The way he seems to be portrayed and her reaction. Not having seen the whole scene, it could be that her reaction is to her his over sharing so quickly more than his declaration itself. I don't know anyone who belts out their religion unless asked. I do know that with movies like The Craft and shows like Charmed, there are a lot of people that claim to be Wiccan without really knowing anything about, they just think it's cool to be different or to be a witch. It, unfortunately, seems to be one of those religions, paganism in general, that is still safely allowed to be mocked without major backlash. ~Kelly http://www.30somethingandsearching.today.com/ I’m not pagan, though I have learned a great deal about pagan religions and I have respect for ALL religions.

I saw this clip and thought, that is going to tick some people off. The way he seems to be portrayed and her reaction.

Not having seen the whole scene, it could be that her reaction is to her his over sharing so quickly more than his declaration itself.

I don’t know anyone who belts out their religion unless asked. I do know that with movies like The Craft and shows like Charmed, there are a lot of people that claim to be Wiccan without really knowing anything about, they just think it’s cool to be different or to be a witch.

It, unfortunately, seems to be one of those religions, paganism in general, that is still safely allowed to be mocked without major backlash.

~Kelly
http://www.30somethingandsearching.today.com/

]]> By: jackie http://2witches.com/blog/wicca-paganism/nature-based-pre-christian-paganism-thats-fantastic/comment-page-1/#comment-1098 jackie Tue, 10 Feb 2009 16:12:14 +0000 http://2witches.com/blog/?p=4479#comment-1098 i saw that clip somewhere else and it pissed me off then too. I haven't seen a protrayal of a wiccan or a pagan yet that is correct or complementary... <abbr><em>jackie´s last blog post..<a href="http://yellowdoggrannie.blogspot.com/2009/02/lol-stumbles.html" rel="nofollow">LOL STUMBLES</a></abbr></em> i saw that clip somewhere else and it pissed me off then too.
I haven’t seen a protrayal of a wiccan or a pagan yet that is correct or complementary…

jackie´s last blog post..LOL STUMBLES

]]> By: Celestite http://2witches.com/blog/wicca-paganism/nature-based-pre-christian-paganism-thats-fantastic/comment-page-1/#comment-1096 Celestite Tue, 10 Feb 2009 12:35:40 +0000 http://2witches.com/blog/?p=4479#comment-1096 This reminds me of someone who introduces themselves by their Warcraft identity. Something also only seen on TV, at least as far as I know. When I get irritated by something like this I just remind myself of all the bad representations of religion, sports, hobbies, gender, professions etc etc that I see on TV or in movies. And that's just the ones that I KNOW are badly done. <abbr><em>Celestite´s last blog post..<a href="http://apagantapestry.blogspot.com/2009/02/full-moon-storm-moon.html" rel="nofollow">Full Moon, Storm Moon</a></abbr></em> This reminds me of someone who introduces themselves by their Warcraft identity. Something also only seen on TV, at least as far as I know. When I get irritated by something like this I just remind myself of all the bad representations of religion, sports, hobbies, gender, professions etc etc that I see on TV or in movies. And that’s just the ones that I KNOW are badly done.

Celestite´s last blog post..Full Moon, Storm Moon

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